CIO Exchange

The CIO exchange podcast features technology and business leaders from around the world, discussing what's working, what's not, and what's next. Through stories of failure, success, passion, and struggle, we explore the ways in which these tech executives have moved both their companies and their careers forward. Each episode is a conversation focusing on a unique topic intended to provide the insight and perspective needed to help others make progress. This podcast is produced by VMware, a Silicon Valley-based technology company. Visit vmware.com/cio for more details.

Reflecting on AI and a Special Announcement

Progress in AI technology has moved faster than our ability to leverage it for the many ways in which it can create value. In this episode, Yadin looks back on the past CIO Exchange episodes focused on AI, and shares a special announcement. 

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Timestamps:

(01:04) Paul Roetzer

(01:50) Trevor Schulze

(03:03) Tim Crawford

(03:51) Peter Shen 

(04:30) Jeff Boudier 

(05:17) Suhail Nimji 

(06:07) Missy Young 

(07:19) Srini Koushik

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Yadin Porter de León on LinkedIn

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Moving Fast, Securely with Laura Bell Main, CEO of SafeStack

How can companies move fast, securely? In this episode, Yadin sits down with Laura Bell Main, CEO of SafeStack and co-author of the book Security for Everyone, to discuss securing organizations of all sizes, navigating security conversations when selling to large enterprises, and some common missteps with security and AI. Laura dives into practical tips for both growing a company and prioritizing security.

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Key Quotes:

“We need to remember that security is the oldest problem there is, so it isn't something you grow into. It isn't something that suddenly appears one Tuesday morning and you're like, oh, right, security matters now.”

“This is how your company is seen in the world. It's a bit crass to say security can help you sell, but it really kind of can.”

“We're never going to win. We just have to give up on that entirely. There is no 100 percent secure, there's no done. That's okay, that's cool.”

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Timestamps:

(01:16) How smaller organizations can become secure

(05:21) Security can help you sell 

(06:05) Communicating security measures when pitching

(08:54) Security and AI tools

(11:01) Putting data in LLMs

(17:24) AI explainability requirements in the EU

(26:37) Understanding ROI in cybersecurity

(32:40) The role of dopamine in cybersecurity

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Links:

Laura Bell Main on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on X
Yadin Porter de León on X


OWASP Top 10 for Large Language Model Applications


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Advice to CIOs from a VC Investor with Yon Hardisty, Founder of HealthTek Incorporated

VC Investor Yon Hardisty, Founder of Healthtek Incorporated, joins Yadin on the podcast to share his advice for CIOs and his perspectives on long-term investing. They discuss navigating board and executive staff conversations. They also dive into lessons from the gaming industry that can help improve preventative healthcare, and vice versa

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Key Quotes:

“The thing that I would do is as a CIO, I would let the board members know that I know who their customer is as well as they do. And what I bring to the table is I also know technology better than they do.”

“It's not about the technology. It's about the human.”

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Timestamps:

(01:00) Yon’s approach to long-term investing 

(07:41) Managing shareholder value and short-term pressure 

(12:49) The connection between games and healthcare

(15:29) How did Yon introduce game concepts to healthcare?

(18:45) Guiding the board towards long-term investments 

(22:08) How are tech trends changing the way people invest? 

(27:29) Advice to a CIO pitching to a C-level executive

(28:28) Advice to CIOs for conversations with the board and executive staff

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Links:

Yon Hardisty on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter


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Preparing for the Spacefaring Economy with Elizebeth Varghese, Partner / Principal, Space Economy Acceleration Leader at Deloitte

Are CIOs prepared for the space age? In this episode, Yadin sits down with Elizebeth Varghese, Partner / Principal, Space Economy Acceleration Leader at Deloitte and the author of Stellar Singularity: Navigating the Spacefaring Economy. They discuss the impact that space technologies have on terrestrial companies and why every company will become a space company. They dive into the democratization of space and advice for CIOs.

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Key Quotes:

“The democratization of space is here.”

“The boundaries of technology and space and non-tech space are blurring. Whether it's telephone services or download speeds, latency of data computing, launch vehicles, infrastructure, data analytics, everything is starting to have a component of space tech in it.”

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Timestamps:

(01:16) What will the space age look like? 

(03:35) How space technology transforms businesses

(07:32) When are spaceports coming? 

(08:34) The democratization of space 

(10:02) The four value streams of space exploration 

(13:51) Are enough CIOs focused on the space economy? 

(15:41) Everyday things that stem from space tech 

(17:18) Challenges in space that mirror terrestrial challenges 

(22:44) Advice for CIOs talking to the board about space 

(26:48) Inspiration from space drives innovation 

(30:48) Choosing space technologies 

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Links:

Elizebeth Varghese on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter


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What Makes a Sustainable Business? with Srini Koushik, President Technology, Sustainability, and AI at Rackspace

hat does it mean to be a truly sustainable business? What factors should be included in the definition of 'sustainability'? In this episode, Yadin sits down with Srini Koushik, President of Technology, Sustainability, and AI at Rackspace. The two discuss the 'Three E’s' of sustainability that should be top of mind for tech leaders and delve into examples of how this framework applies to recent technologies. They specifically dissect the sustainable use of AI and explore the various considerations regarding how to employ it."
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Key Quotes:

“As technologists, we live and operate in an environment that has the ability to impact this in a meaningful way. How you choose the technologies you use, how you consume it, how do you kind of make it available to a broader subset of people so that they can enjoy the benefits that technology brings, those are all things under our control.”

“As technology leaders, we're going to have to be a lot more conscious about the decisions we make as to where you use technology and how you do that. I think the sustainability framework we've been talking about gives you a much better, it's not that you're not going to make mistakes, but, it will be, it'll kind of weed out some of the really bad ideas very quickly”.

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Timestamps:

(00:50) Sustainability beyond the “green aspect” 

(02:01) The three “E’s” of sustainability 

(04:29) Applying the three E’s to AI 

(06:46) Ethical and “green” use of AI 

(09:40) AI to augment humans 

(18:00) The evolution of the definition of sustainability 

(23:07) The progression of technology and human knowledge 

(27:55) We broke it, and we can fix it 

(31:32) Will AI reach everyone equally? 

(33:02) Call to action for technology leaders

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Links:

Srini Koushik on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter
Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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The Sustainable Data Center and the “AI Gold Rush” with Missy Young, CIO of Switch

Switch is an innovator in the data center industry, providing services that are 100 percent renewable with a perfect uptime record. In this episode, Yadin sits down with Switch’s CIO, Missy Young, to discuss how Switch’s sustainability practices trickle down and benefit their customers' ESG efforts, as well as their bottom line, and how AI is impacting the data center capacity across the industry. They delve into examples of how Switch partners with large companies and why so many digital transformations are failing within enterprises. 

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Key Quotes:

“A lot of people think it costs you way more to go green. No, not necessarily. It's not true. It depends on how you do it. But when you have a middleman who is buying the energy for you and then marking it up 80 percent and selling it to you, then yes, it's going to cost more. But if you can buy direct, you're going to get a much better bang for your buck.”

“When C-level executives want to do digital transformation, it is a necessity that they have buy-in from the team. It is a necessity that they figure out, am I making sure that these employees don't feel fear because of this change? Am I making sure that they still feel valued? Am I making sure that I'm assigning the right tasks to the right people? Am I sure that they're not so afraid of the complexity of this change that they're not even going to do it?”

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Timestamps:

(01:31) The scale of Switch’s services

(02:17) Why people aren’t running their own data centers

(04:27) The value beyond a perfect uptime record 

(05:21) How Switch formed their buying cooperative 

(08:56) 100 percent renewable data centers 

(11:38) Becoming net water positive 

(12:38) How this supports customer ESG initiatives 

(13:45) The "AI gold rush" and lack of data center capacity 

(17:22) How Switch partners with companies / FedEx case study 

(19:48) Why are transformations failing? 

(25:00) What Missy sees happening next 

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Missy Young on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on X

Yadin Porter de León on X


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How to Choose Your AI Partners with Suhail Nimji, VP/Head of Business Development, Corporate Development, and Partnerships at Jasper

Is implementing generative AI different from implementing other tools? Should CIOs build or buy, and how should they choose their AI partners? IIn this episode, Yadin sits down with Suhail Nimji, VP/Head of Business Development, Corporate Development, and Partnerships at Jasper, to discuss what he is seeing and hearing in the market. They dive into the change management differences with AI, as well as the questions CIOs should ask as they build AI partnerships.

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Key Quotes:

“This is a journey, not a sort of, hey, we've implemented this thing and let's go. And so when I talk to CIOs about the landscape, it's more so who can you partner with on this journey? And I think that's the most important thing to think about. Because it will be iterative.”

“The CIO's job is to be thinking about the next frontier constantly while having one eye on the present and one eye on the future. And to think that this is like a net new sort of revelation for them would be remiss. Their entire job with their leadership is to think about, how are we implementing the best technology for our customers, for our employees? How do we give the best experience? Generative is just another sort of like, oh, look, there's another tool that we should go evaluate.”

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Timestamps:

(01:15) What is the current conversation about generative AI? 

(02:30) What is different about the AI conversation now? 

(07:34) Is upskilling and reskilling a big part of the conversation?

(09:32) AI creates workflow change, more than a technical one 

(12:22) Deciding who to partner with

(15:05) Trust in AI partnerships 

(16:20) Questions tech leaders should ask as they choose AI partners 

(21:44) Data security and privacy 

(24:38) Is this different than other tools? 

(27:27) Build versus buy 

(29:14) Are there unique hurtles when rolling out AI solutions?

(30:47) Change management 

(33:54) Suhail’s advice for CIOs

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Suhail Nimji on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on X

Yadin Porter de León on X

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Securing the Software Supply Chain with Chip Childers, VP Security at VMware and Jim Mercer, VP DevSecOps at IDC

Incidents like the Log4j incident and new governmental regulations have forced tech leaders to examine the security of their software supply chain. Understanding the complexities of this is challenging; how can CIOs determine their exposure and prioritize their vulnerabilities? In this conversation, Yadin sits down with Chip Childers, VP Security, Compliance, Open-Source & Privacy Engineering & Chief Open Source Officer at VMware and Jim Mercer, Research Vice President - DevOps & DevSecOps at IDC, to discuss the software supply chain and how CIOs should think about it, in depth. They look at how we became so reliant on the open-source community and the impact of generative AI.

Key Quotes:

“When you talk about the idea of having to have development resources to do patching, it's those transitive dependencies, honestly, that you may not be able to patch because you're relying on other people's work. That's why understanding this complexity really matters.” - Chip 

“I don't think a lot of organizations realize how dependent they are on this open source community as we've started to kind of grow out, develop applications and rely so heavily on open source.”- Jim

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Timestamps:

(01:15) Why are we concerned about the software supply chain?

(05:25) Building complex systems on top of other complex systems

(08:15) Realizations from the Log4j incident 

(11:22) Resulting shifts from new compliance and regulations

(16:21) Creative chaos in the software industry 

(18:48) Reliance on the open-source community 

(19:23) How can you identify where code is coming from?

(20:17) Prioritizing vulnerabilities 

(23:08) The snowball effect in the supply chain

(25:00) How do you understand your exposure?

(33:15) The impact of generative AI 

(37:27) Where should CIOs start heading into board level conversations? 

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Chip Childers on LinkedIn

Jim Mercer on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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Speaking with AI: A Real-Time Conversation with Pi, a Personal AI Assistant

How would an artificial intelligence advise CIOs to think about AI? In this special episode of the CIO Exchange podcast, host Yadin Porter de León brings on an artificial intelligence as a guest for the first time, called Pi. Yadin asks Pi a variety of questions about itself and how it works, AI generally, and how CIOs and technology leaders should be thinking about generative AI. This conversation offers insight into how an AI-powered conversational tool engages and answers questions.

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Key Quotes:

“Every conversation I have helps me become a better conversationalist, and I can also apply what I've learned in one conversation to new conversations, like the one we're having right now.”

“I would encourage technology leaders to be optimistic about the future of AI. It has the potential to be a force for good in the world, and I hope that we can all work together to make sure that happens.”

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Timestamps:

(01:51) Pi’s voice and gender 

(02:26) How does Pi work? 

(03:14) Digging deeper into the technology 

(03:36) How Pi learns 

(06:02) How Pi’s conversational skills developed

(07:00) What does Pi think is top of mind for CIOs? 

(08:23) Pi’s advice for CIOs who want to engage with generative AI

(09:03) Concerns around data privacy

(09:20) Influencing versus manipulating

(10:07) Pi and thinking, humor, and empathy

(12:04) Is AI being hacked a concern? 

(12:39) Can Pi explain why AI poses little risk? 

(13:50) What does Pi think about the humans who trained it? 

(15:06) How should CIOs engage with AI in ways they aren’t thinking about? 

(16:18) Pi’s final thoughts for technology leaders

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Link to Pi

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

The Current State of AI in the Enterprise

What mindset shift should CIOs and CTOs make in order to succeed in an AI-driven world? How can they take control of their destinies and future proof to ensure responsible AI use in their organization? In this episode, Yadin sits down with Jeff Boudier, who is responsible for Product and Growth at Hugging Face, to discuss in depth. They cover using a principles-first approach, teaching a machine to be friendly, and increases in productivity. 

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Key Quotes:

“AI is becoming the default way to build technology and most technology is going to be running some machine learning models in the background and those models are going to be running everywhere from cloud to data center all the way to your pocket.”

“At the end of the day, what I'm really looking forward to is for every single company in the world to be able to build and own their own models.”

“Open models, open datasets and open source AI are really the only way forward for enterprises.

If they want to be future-proof,  in terms of auditability, in terms of regulation, in terms of compliance, then it's about being in control of your own destiny, right? Because AI is so key to everything you're going to be offering to customers.”

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Timestamps:

(00:16) The start of Hugging Face seven years ago 

(01:11) What was machine learning like at that time?

(02:19) Teaching a machine to be friendly 

(03:16) The shift that resulted from the seminal paper “Attention Is All You Need”

(04:50) The shift from writing an application to finding a model

(05:48) The increase in productivity from machine learning 

(06:51) Ethical use of AI 

(08:25) Are enterprises ready to think through complex AI questions?

(09:38) How CTOs are moving to a “model mindset”

(10:50) Evaluating models 

(13:10) Offering end-to-end solutions 

(15:43) Using a first principles approach

 (19:19) Where will AI run? 

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Links:

Jeff Boudier on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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Customer Zero – App Modernization with Multi-Cloud

This is part of an ongoing series entitled “Customer Zero” where we talk with the member of the VMware IT leadership team who are the first to use the products that our engineering teams produce. Through conversations with IT and engineering, we see how they are leveraging the technology to solve the same hard problems our customers are challenged with. From Multi-cloud complexity and app modernization to the needs of the new workforce, we hear how they are changing IT and the business.

In this episode, we are joined by VMware’s Sr. Director IT, Digital Customer Experience Engineering, Pankaj Purwar and Senior Director - IT Application Operations, Varinder Kumar as they discuss their journey of modernizing the mission-critical VMware Customer Connect application. During our conversation, they share their experience of transitioning the platform from a monolithic structure to a multi-cloud environment using microservices, and also discuss tackling performance and scalability challenges. They delve into creating a cloud-agnostic solution in a multi-cloud setting using Tanzu tools and the collaborative efforts that made it possible. They'll both touch on unexpected hurdles they encountered along the way and how they managed to keep business disruption to a minimum and downtime to zero.

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Varinder Kumar on LinkedIn

Data Challenges and AI Opportunities in Healthcare with Peter Shen, Head of Digital Health - North America at Siemens Healthineers

Many of the challenges facing the healthcare industry became common knowledge throughout the pandemic. How has industry thinking shifted with the emergence of new technologies and solutions? How can we think about tackling these huge issues at this point? Peter Shen, Head of Digital Health - North America at Siemens Healthineers, joins the podcast to discuss how emerging technologies, including AI and LLMs, can help move the needle in democratizing healthcare. He and Yadin dive into the challenges clinicians face in utilizing vast amounts of clinical data, as well as using AI as a companion to physicians and a resource to patients.

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Key Quotes:

“So, tremendous amount of data that's being generated. The rate that's being generated doesn't even compare to the much slower growth rate of new clinicians, new doctors that are coming into health care. So as you can imagine, there's this gap that's growing…The clinician just doesn't have time to consume all this patient data that's being generated.”

“Unfortunately patients have heart attacks in all parts of the country, rural, or in the big city or whatnot. But now being able to enable the patient to go to their local hospital, get the same level of care that they could get if they went to a larger institution because you have the ability to have these shorthanded resources, now leverage technologies like remote, scanning capabilities to be able to take care of the patient from afar.”

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Timestamps:

(01:14) The unique challenges in healthcare right now 

(02:37) The trend towards burn-out and “re-careering”

(04:14) The increase in healthcare data and limited capacity to utilize it 

(07:58) How does Siemens approach such big problems? 

(09:26) Can we leverage technologies to keep doctors informed on new clinical information? 

(10:33) Ways to remove friction in the healthcare industry 

(12:18) Unifying disparate clinical data

(13:13) Hurdles in unifying data

(15:41) Using AI to move the needle  

(17:43) AI as as a companion for the clinician 

(18:39) Peter’s hope for the impact of these technologies 

(19:34) The possibilities of large language models for the patient 

(22:05) The ability to scale large language models 

(25:25) Distribution of AI in healthcare 

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Peter Shen on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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Cybersecurity and Economic Prosperity with Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-Founder and Chairman of Silverado Policy Accelerator

How does cybersecurity impact the global economy and geopolitical landscape? How is AI changing the game? Yadin sits down with renowned cybersecurity strategist, advisor and geopolitics thought leader Dmitri Alperovitch to discuss this in depth. They dive into the current geopolitical landscape and how CIOs should be thinking about global macro trends as they build their security strategy. Dmitri also shares his thoughts on the ransomware insurance industry and predictions for future actions from China.

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Key Quotes:

"So those are the types of things that you want to be thinking about as an organization is: What are you not practicing? What disaster recovery scenarios? It's great that you have backups, but have you ever actually tried to recover everything?...And what other resiliency mechanisms do you have inside your network that may not be cyber- or even technology-related, that would allow you to operate your business?"

"One of the things that everyone should be thinking about is how geopolitical events, like frankly the Russian invasion of Ukraine and similar events in the future, can affect your business and your operations. One of the things that companies had to figure out once Russia invaded Ukraine is how to pull out of the country in a responsible fashion. How, if they couldn't pull out completely, to isolate the operations  in country from being able to impact operations globally, in case the Russian government decides to do nefarious things on your network or pressure your local employees to do something. And that's something that I think everyone should be paying attention to when it comes to China." 

Time stamps:

(01:00) The relationship between cybersecurity and economic prosperity 

(02:42) How rapidly is the ransomware issue growing? 

(04:37) Hidden costs of sacrificing cybersecurity for competitive advantage 

(07:44) Is the insurance industry influencing how companies think about cybersecurity? 

(08:41) Is AI changing company behavior regarding cybersecurity?

(12:55) How AI impacts the gap between defense and offense 

(16:51) How has cybersecurity become a tool in geopolitics? 

(19:57) Global ripple effects of infrastructure being hacked

(21:59) How should CIOs think about security within these macro trends? 

(36:22) What CIOs should be discussing with the board and executive staff

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Dmitri Alperovitch on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter


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“Emerging-Emerging” Trends with Tim Crawford, CIO Strategic Advisor at AVOA

How should CIOs be thinking about implementing generative AI? What does it mean to be a sustainable business? What are offices for? In this episode, host Yadin Porter de León  sits down with Tim Crawford, CIO Strategic Advisor at AVOA, to discuss these questions in depth. They dive into the conversations that Tim is having with CIOs about generative AI and the nuances surrounding the debates around work-from-home.

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Key Quotes:

“We've been challenged for data scientists within our organization. Generative AI just takes that to the next level. And so the problem is, we don't even have the resources internally to be able to get our arms around it.”

“And that's part of what is scaring IT executives today is that they got burned on cloud. And now we're talking about generative AI. And now, unfortunately, we're talking more about data and the risks just went up. So you have to be really careful about how you go down this. I realize the pressures there. I realize there's a lot of demand to try and adopt it and get ahead of your competition. But at the same time, if you don't think about the risks that go with it and have a healthy balance between benefit and risk, you're just playing with fire.”

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Time stamps:

(02:40) What are tech leaders saying about AI?

(06:22) The need for increased understanding so we can trust AI tools 

(07:01) Generative AI increases the demand for data scientists 

(11:58) How the EU is thinking about generative AI

(14:47) Lessons we can learn from implementing cloud technologies 

(17:01) AI as augmentation instead of replacement 

(19:02) The need for a holistic conversation 

(20:16) Running a sustainable business, beyond just ESG

(25:21) The overuse of the “Black Swan” concept 

(27:43) How to plan for risks to build a sustainable business

(32:54) The need for an IT leader who is capable of CEO-level conversations 

(34:55) What is the office for? 

(40:42) The new complications of in-office work 

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Links:

Tim Crawford on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

Relevant Past Episodes: 

Data Democratization and the “Intelligence Era” with Trevor Schulze, CIO of Alteryx 

Generative AI: What CIOs Need to Know – with Paul Roetzer, CEO of Marketing AI Institute

 

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Data Democratization and the “Intelligence Era” with Trevor Schulze, CIO of Alteryx

Striking the balance between data access and security has always been a nuanced challenge for tech leaders, long before the rise of generative AI. But now, how does AI play into the need for data literacy and data democratization? In this episode, Yadin sits down with  Trevor Schulze, the CIO of Alteryx, to discuss the importance of data democratization amidst the “intelligence era”. They discuss creating data-literate teams, empowering your employees with data and the value of speed to insight.

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Key Quotes:

“People talk about a data-driven culture and what does that mean? It means that you need to encourage and reward people to ask and seek questions through data.”

“We always paid attention to data, right? That's our job. But really we have to refresh and rethink and reimagine what we have to do in order to enable these intelligence systems to really take advantage of advanced capabilities.”

“You need a literate group of people in your company who are going to have the ability to take advantage of these new AI enabled systems in this era of intelligence.”

Time stamps:

(00:00) Upskilling IT teams with data literacy 

(01:50) How Trevor is enabling teams amidst AI

(03:56) What really is data literacy? 

(05:04) The importance of data-driven conversations 

(8:44) Governance, regulation, compliance, and managing risk 

(11:00) The benefits of increased data access

(13:11) Tackling the mismatch between data supply and demand

(17:53) Balancing data access and cybersecurity / Fintech 

(24:22) Speed to insight and how it can help you in economically challenging times

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Links:

Trevor Schulze on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter
Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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Managing talent: finding, retaining, upskilling, and reskilling - with Abhimanyu Saxena, Co-Founder of Scaler and InterviewBit

While it is not a new issue, managing talent continues to be an important challenge for technology leaders. Abhimanyu Saxena is the Co-Founder of Scaler, an online transformative upskilling platform for working tech professionals. In this episode, Abhimanyu and Yadin dive into retaining, upskilling and reskilling talent, discussing best practices that will help both employers and employees navigate this changing landscape. 

They touch on everything from standard approaches, to the major shifts in the marketplace and talent requirements presented by emerging AI technology.

Key Quotes:

“For a software engineering professional or a data scientist, most important is learning to learn. That is much more important than what is the framework or technology that you might know today, because whatever you know is going to get outdated in few years.” 

“The most important part of any upskilling effort is that, is this active learning versus passive learning? Generally, passive learning doesn't lead to much of an impact.”

“Generally, the best performers, the most impactful employees of the company, are the people who have seen all the facades, all the faces of the product. And now they have that intuition [about] what really adds value to your customers.”

“Generative AI, ChatGPT, is exceptionally powerful. But, despite that, there will be a time where it hits it's  limit and then you have to resort back to human intuition and problem solving and move ahead. So you cannot be totally reliant on that. It's very similar to how a calculator is a powerful tool for a mathematician, but a mathematician's intellect is not in a calculator. That stays with the mathematician."

Time stamps:

(01:00) Thoughts on the need for IT talent

(02:49) What employers look for in employees

(04:25) The importance of employing problem-solvers

(07:50) Examples of how that looks in organizations

(11:51) Ways to approach upskilling and reskilling

(13:35) The benefits of retaining and moving talent 

(20:47) How Scaler upskills and reskills

(22:56) The issues with a one-size fits all approach

(26:15) How has Scaler’s approach evolved?

(28:37) How are technology leaders are talking about generative AI?

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Links:

Abhimanyu Saxena on LinkedIn

CIO Exchange on Twitter

Yadin Porter de León on Twitter

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Customer Zero – Multi-Cloud Transformation

This is part of an ongoing series entitled “Customer Zero” where we talk with the member of the VMware IT leadership team who are the first to use the products that our engineering teams produce. Through conversations with IT and engineering, we see how they are leveraging the technology to solve the same hard problems our customers are challenged with. From Multi-cloud complexity and app modernization to the needs of the new workforce, we hear how they are changing IT and the business. 

In this episode, I have a conversation with VMware’s VP of Network Services and VMware on VMware John Drummond and VP IT/CTO Operations Jerry Ibrahim as they talk about cloud transformation and the move to multi-cloud—what is it to be cloud smart what it means for VMware teams.

Generative AI: What CIOs Need to Know - with Paul Roetzer, CEO of Marketing AI Institute

Generative AI is one of the most exciting and disruptive technologies to emerge in recent years. It has the potential to revolutionize the way we live and work, and it is already having a major impact on many industries. With the rapid advancement of Generative AI technology, businesses are scrambling to keep up and adapt to the new reality.

As a technology leader, it's critical to understand the implications of generative AI and how it can be harnessed to gain a competitive edge. 

In this episode, we hear from Paul Roetzer, CEO and founder of the AI Marketing Institute. For the last decade, he has been immersed in the emerging capabilities of artificial intelligence and how it can be leveraged to help enterprise companies. He has watched closely as AL/ML has evolved into the large learning models (or LLMs) that have astonished the world with their ability to create, analyze and perform tasks that rival the capabilities of many knowledge workers.

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Key Quotes:

“What I always tell people is, AI's not gonna replace you. But people who use AI will replace people who don't. Basically in any career path, any knowledge work, any creative path. I do think, though, that the disruption to these professions is gonna be probably more significant in the near term than we expect.”

“The best advice is, you just have to embrace the fact that the technology is going to continue to advance in a really, really rapid way. And you have to have the resources internally. Maybe it's an AI council, maybe it's a couple of people that are focused on this emerging area. You've gotta stay at the forefront of it and see around the corners because the lead time to know what's coming next is gonna keep getting shorter. Right now, we could probably reasonably project what life looks like 12 months from now. Anything beyond that is just a fool's errand.”

“The blessing of ChatGPT in my world is it woke people up to the power of AI in good ways and in bad. Now people can envision the downsides as well. So now we can actually get to the important conversations around ethics and responsible application of AI and impact on workforces and things like that.”

“I feel like we need more conversation around AI as a leverage point to create better working environments, better jobs, and more fulfilling lives for people, because otherwise I think it's just for nothing. Like, it's just another productivity gain and a missed opportunity to improve people's lives.”

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Time stamps:

02:23 The rapid growth of AI

05:45 Staying up to date on emerging tech

07:01 Who’s going to do the innovating?

09:20 How to organize your AI team

011:39 Why education is so important

13:53 How ChatGPT works

14:40 What’s terrifying, what’s exciting?

16:37 How language models work

19:02 Will AI replace workers?

21:56 Embrace technology’s quick growth

23:22 Your whole organization should understand AI

27:58 How to build an intelligent company

31:44 The gifts ChatGPT brings

33:43 The future of AI

36:17 Pitching AI to the board

37:59 How to get involved

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Links:

Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulroetzer/

CIO Exchange on Twitter: https://twitter.com/vmwcioexchange
Yadin Porter de León on Twitter: https://twitter.com/porterdeleon 

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Customer Zero - Customer Experience and the Use of Data

This is part of an ongoing series entitled “Customer Zero” where we talk with the member of the VMware IT leadership team who are the first to use the products that our engineering teams produce. Through conversations with IT and engineering, we see how they are leveraging the technology to solve the same hard problems our customers are challenged with. From Multi-cloud complexity and app modernization to the needs of the new workforce, we hear how they are changing IT and the business. 

In this episode, we are joined by VMware’s VP IT Colleague Experience Pam Cocca and Head of Enterprise Data Office Travis Icard as they discuss user experience and how human connections, and the use of data, can influence personal and business goals. We explore how they are able to scale their efforts to provide teams with better collaboration tools and better digital experiences in order to improve things like productivity and security posture.

Platform Engineering and the Developer Experience - with Rob Hirschfeld, CEO and Founder of RackN

As we’ve known for some time, top developer talent is scarce and continues to see a rise in demand. As a result, tech leaders are increasingly focused on developer productivity and the developer experience, looking for strategies to improve both. One potential solution is platform engineering. 

Rob Hirschfeld is the CEO and Founder of RackN, a leader in physical and hybrid DevOps software. He has been in the cloud and infrastructure space for 20 years and has executive experience at both start-ups and big companies. He has a background in Scale Computing, Mechanical and Systems Engineering, and is an advocate for applying lean and agile processes to software delivery. 

In this episode, Rob dives into platform engineering, explaining how it can support developers and operations teams, improve productivity and enhance the developer experience. He stresses the importance of collaboration between internal teams and thinking critically about how to define productivity. He also outlines the challenges that he is seeing in automation reliability and automation half-life.

Key Quotes:

“What’s happening is, it's not that hard to write code. It's getting even easier with some of the new things that we have, but it's incredibly hard to take that code on a journey all the way into production and to keep it running in production. And that understanding, learning all those pieces having to do with all the work that has to go into building that infrastructure and making that work, that ends up being a tremendous hurdle for developers.”

“If you're looking at productivity as, I delivered a whole bunch of code. It doesn't make any difference. What you actually need to be doing is delivering the right code at the right time.”

“The way I see platform engineering is, it's a service-oriented operations infrastructure that consolidates the operations experiences across multiple disparate development teams. There's people out there who talk about it being an internal product. If you get too focused on a product definition of platform engineering, you miss what we're really doing, which is creating a service oriented approach. Meaning, it's an operations team that is looking at the developers as customers and figuring out how to better serve those internal teams as a shared resource.”

“What we see everywhere in the industry is there is a reliability crisis in automation. Meaning most people don't believe their automation is very reliable….They’re basing it on, when you run your automation, how often does it work? What we find is that a lot of people have under 80 percent automation success.”

Time stamps:

1:00 Development team’s biggest challenges

2:46 Journey from ideation to production

4:46 Impact of improving the developer experience 

11:48 Definition of platform engineering 

13:06 Platform engineering case studies

18:51 Why developers and operations teams need to collaborate 

 24:30 How platform engineering impacts security

27:17 Importance of transparency and stakeholder buy-in

31:59 Automation reliability problems

35:00 Will generative AI improve automation?